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Post by Horny_Noddy on Nov 20, 2007 17:26:43 GMT 1
Why not? if you don't have to play for result you have a great chance to build good team in the future,it is harder to stay on the top than to get on to it In most country's best team wasn't in first division on start (first 2-3 seasons)... In Portugal the best teams were in the first divison on start except one or two team but the others were.
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Post by nino on Nov 20, 2007 20:10:44 GMT 1
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Post by dragosv on Nov 21, 2007 10:38:41 GMT 1
Some managers last weeks got 5-6 players over 20 000 TSI from start. That is fair? I needed 150 days to create team like that, and some got teams like that from start... You call that fair if some players started from "zero" and some with 3-4 players over 20000 tsi!!? ALL teams should start from same level. THAT IS ONLY RIGHT AND FAIR, everything else is stupid... Well, you should read before and understand what we wrote, so don´t say It´s stupid. Nobody sad that teams should recieve 20.000 tsi players, so please read before you say that it´s stupid. PS: what team recieved 4 players with over 20.000 TSI?
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Post by sombrero on Nov 21, 2007 14:35:36 GMT 1
I agree with st_Alex If we give starters in Spanish 5 better teams than the starters in Italy 3 or Belgium 4, Spain will keep on getting better and better... And NT Belgium, Italy, and teams of that grade are never going to be sucessfull in world championsships. Sombrero Sorry if you don't understand my English
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Post by Horny_Noddy on Nov 21, 2007 14:38:39 GMT 1
Some managers last weeks got 5-6 players over 20 000 TSI from start. That is fair? I needed 150 days to create team like that, and some got teams like that from start... You call that fair if some players started from "zero" and some with 3-4 players over 20000 tsi!!? ALL teams should start from same level. THAT IS ONLY RIGHT AND FAIR, everything else is stupid... Well, you should read before and understand what we wrote, so don´t say It´s stupid. Nobody sad that teams should recieve 20.000 tsi players, so please read before you say that it´s stupid. PS: what team recieved 4 players with over 20.000 TSI? In Portugal one team at 4th divison as lot of good players see this: team:Abilio infesta (ID 1088) I don't agree with this cases but i think with better and difficult league the managers should get better team.
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Post by dragosv on Nov 21, 2007 14:46:17 GMT 1
I agree with st_Alex If we give starters in Spanish 5 better teams than the starters in Italy 3 or Belgium 4, Spain will keep on getting better and better... And NT Belgium, Italy, and teams of that grade are never going to be sucessfull in world championsships. Sombrero Sorry if you don't understand my English I´m not talking about big differences, but a bit more so the newbies in spain could have a chance. If spain has powerfull teams is because it´s the country with most managers and has the most active forum in the game. So it´s not because they have better teams from the start, it´s because there are more managers who take this game serious.
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Post by st_alex on Nov 21, 2007 16:00:14 GMT 1
Spain League 5#1, compare first and second team, they both play about a month, and that is fair to team 2???
If both teams were reseted they would have equal chances, now they don't
edit: I had a example from Croatia too, but I cannot find it now...
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Post by st_alex on Nov 21, 2007 16:07:45 GMT 1
And if Spain teams get better players then Italys, then price of players from Italian clubs would be lower then it would be price of Spain players, and when it would be more players on market of that "spanish" players, players with quality of "italian starters" price would be lower on market then it would be if teams were reseted...
I hope somebody will understand what I am trying to say...
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Post by dragosv on Nov 21, 2007 16:34:01 GMT 1
And if Spain teams get better players then Italys, then price of players from Italian clubs would be lower then it would be price of Spain players, and when it would be more players on market of that "spanish" players, players with quality of "italian starters" price would be lower on market then it would be if teams were reseted... I hope somebody will understand what I am trying to say... About the spanish players, the good players are because of training, not because they are recieved with the begging team. Also the youth department. So good player are the ones who are trained and the one´s with great youth schools. So no offence, but the market of 7000 TSI and over 22 years is minimal.
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Post by dragosv on Nov 21, 2007 16:34:57 GMT 1
Spain League 5#1, compare first and second team, they both play about a month, and that is fair to team 2??? If both teams were reseted they would have equal chances, now they don't edit: I had a example from Croatia too, but I cannot find it now... I agree with that, my diferences come when we compare divisions dificulty.
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Post by nino on Nov 21, 2007 16:47:19 GMT 1
Some managers last weeks got 5-6 players over 20 000 TSI from start. That is fair? I needed 150 days to create team like that, and some got teams like that from start... You call that fair if some players started from "zero" and some with 3-4 players over 20000 tsi!!? ALL teams should start from same level. THAT IS ONLY RIGHT AND FAIR, everything else is stupid... Well, you should read before and understand what we wrote, so don´t say It´s stupid. Nobody sad that teams should recieve 20.000 tsi players, so please read before you say that it´s stupid. PS: what team recieved 4 players with over 20.000 TSI? I am talking about "RESETING TEAMS" (as you can see from name of this thread) One team from Croatian 4th division (RK Zadar Eva - I believe this is team st.alex cant remember name) got 6-7 players over 10k TSI, 2 of them over 20k, one on 19k... and as we can see we have example of this in almost every country. and this is STUPID and UNFAIR. SO maybe you are the one who needs to understand what I am writing, because I was not talking about Spanish or Italian teams, I was talking about RESETING TEAMS because this thread is about that
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Post by dragosv on Nov 21, 2007 17:45:14 GMT 1
Well, you should read before and understand what we wrote, so don´t say It´s stupid. Nobody sad that teams should recieve 20.000 tsi players, so please read before you say that it´s stupid. PS: what team recieved 4 players with over 20.000 TSI? I am talking about "RESETING TEAMS" (as you can see from name of this thread) One team from Croatian 4th division (RK Zadar Eva - I believe this is team st.alex cant remember name) got 6-7 players over 10k TSI, 2 of them over 20k, one on 19k... and as we can see we have example of this in almost every country. and this is STUPID and UNFAIR. SO maybe you are the one who needs to understand what I am writing, because I was not talking about Spanish or Italian teams, I was talking about RESETING TEAMS because this thread is about that Teams are reset and the half season and in the season end. If this is what you are talking about. But you mean that a new manager got a team with : with TSI over 20.000?
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Post by dragosv on Nov 21, 2007 17:48:33 GMT 1
I think that every team should be reseted before new owner get's it because now days new players can get team where best player has skill index 8K but there are team's which get players with skill index 30K Sorry, I never knew that a team could get a team before the players are reseted. I mean some newbies in harder divisions deserve a bit more better players, but definetly not over 10.000 TSI (mabye one, but not to much over 10.000).
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Post by GM-JRGalo on Nov 21, 2007 18:06:14 GMT 1
You´re not undestanding what we said. Let´s me give an example: Team A: [Name] - [tsi] p1 - 20k p2 - 25k p3 - 20k p4 - 30k p5 - 22k p6 - 17k p7 - 15k p8 - 10k The manager of this team don´t log in for 6 weeks, so the team become a BOT, and Anders put on sale(he always does it) the best 5players. So the "Team A BOT" still have this players: p6 - 17k p7 - 15k p8 - 10k Then a new managers receive a team, but the team has the players of the "Team A BOT". This new manager has three great player. Another team B: [Name] - [tsi] p1 - 40k p2 - 55k p3 - 30k p4 - 10k p5 - 8k p6 - 4k p7 - 5k p8 - 1k After becoming a BOT, the best players of this team are: p6 - 4k p7 - 5k p8 - 1k And They are much worse than the previous ones. Now, think about if this two news managers(they have started to played the SAME DAY) plays at the same group...... Then it´s need to reset teams Also all teams of lowest division(in Spain will be 5th, in other countries 3rd or 2nd) should get the same team(all player under 5-6k tsi). They will fight with people that had a similar team as you. I hope everyone understand my opinion
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Post by sombrero on Nov 21, 2007 18:35:04 GMT 1
I agree with st_Alex If we give starters in Spanish 5 better teams than the starters in Italy 3 or Belgium 4, Spain will keep on getting better and better... And NT Belgium, Italy, and teams of that grade are never going to be sucessfull in world championsships. Sombrero Sorry if you don't understand my English I´m not talking about big differences, but a bit more so the newbies in spain could have a chance. If spain has powerfull teams is because it´s the country with most managers and has the most active forum in the game. So it´s not because they have better teams from the start, it´s because there are more managers who take this game serious. OK, you're right lower leagues like Belgium just have to try to get more managers in the game so there NT can grow...
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