tinppa
Junior Handballer
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Post by tinppa on Jul 26, 2006 11:39:23 GMT 1
I dont know, if it is cheating, but I got screwed!!!! I put one of my players(gil) on the transfermarket for at least 5k €, but I sold him for 4500 € how is that possible??? I wanted at least 5000 € thats why I let it start at 5k. Thats CHEATING. I want my player back!!!!! My team : BaErLiN.RuLeZ Because this player was with the club less than 5 weeks his former club receive some money from the sale.Read your team informations
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Post by Anders Busch (admin) on Jul 26, 2006 12:03:36 GMT 1
Anders investigate this BraveHearts Maribor (ID 3347) and Imperdibles (ID 1028) Imperdibles (ID 1028) buy from BraveHearts Maribor (ID 3347) 3 players at 20:44 Maks Gale - Age: 33 - Skill Index: 3 160 Erik Gregorič - Age: 34 - Skill Index: 4 330 Sašo Habić - Age: 35 - Skill Index: 2 790 I don't think this one cheating. The transfer was made between a PC in Slovenia to a PC in Spain. I think the prices are fair enough. PS: I have added a list of the last 500 transfers to the game so it will be a bit easier to find cheaters.
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Post by belthazor on Aug 5, 2006 19:56:20 GMT 1
Anders investigate this 2 cases...
Case 1 - Transferences between 2 Germans Gustorf Dream Team and HC Grünwald
Teo Beckmann ( En venta ) -$- ID jugador: 55049 País: Alemania Equipo: Gustorf Dream Team Equipo de formación: Gustorf Dream Team Equipo de procedencia: Gustorf Dream Team Semanas en el club: Siempre Edad: 17 Altura: 189 cm Valor: 1 900 Salario por semana: € 197 Porteria: - Juego de pies: - Pase: 1 Creatividad: 9 Aceleración: 6 Colocación: 6 Penalty: 2 Experiencia: 1 Condición: 68
Oferta actual por: HC Grünwald Oferta: € 120 000
Siegfried Frost ( En venta ) -$- ID jugador: 43462 País: Alemania Equipo: Gustorf Dream Team Equipo de formación: Gustorf Dream Team Equipo de procedencia: Gustorf Dream Team Semanas en el club: Siempre Edad: 18 Altura: 188 cm Valor: 1 855 Salario por semana: € 196 Porteria: 1 Juego de pies: 2 Pase: 1 Creatividad: 5 Aceleración: 4 Colocación: 10 Penalty: - Experiencia: - Condición: 60
Oferta actual por: HC Grünwald Oferta: € 130 000
And others....
Case 2 - Other tranference beetwen 2 Germans F.M. OdŽak and titanik
Gert Fenger ( En venta ) -$- ID jugador: 02904 País: Suecia Equipo: F.M. OdŽak Equipo de formación: F.M. OdŽak Equipo de procedencia: - Semanas en el club: Siempre Edad: 26 Altura: 192 cm Valor: 935 Salario por semana: € 216 Porteria: - Juego de pies: 3 Pase: 5 Creatividad: 5 Aceleración: 1 Colocación: 3 Penalty: - Experiencia: 2 Condición: 100
Oferta actual por: titanik Oferta: € 300 001
Isak Stahlschmidt ( En venta ) -$- ID jugador: 02902 País: Alemania Equipo: F.M. OdŽak Equipo de formación: F.M. OdŽak Equipo de procedencia: - Semanas en el club: Siempre Edad: 23 Altura: 193 cm Valor: 835 Salario por semana: € 207 Porteria: 2 Juego de pies: 3 Pase: 4 Creatividad: 1 Aceleración: 3 Colocación: 4 Penalty: 1 Experiencia: 3 Condición: 90
Oferta actual por: titanik Oferta: € 300 001
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Post by Anders Busch (admin) on Aug 6, 2006 9:41:50 GMT 1
Anders investigate this 2 cases... Case 1 - Transferences between 2 Germans Gustorf Dream Team and HC GrünwaldAnd others.... Case 2 - Other tranference beetwen 2 Germans F.M. OdŽak and titanikF.M. OdŽak, HC Boseind and titanik have been deleted.
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Post by zujo23 on Aug 8, 2006 14:11:16 GMT 1
Zvonimir Smailagiæ Igliæ ( On sale ) -$- Player ID: 06587 Country: Croatia Team: RK BEBA Childhood team: RK BEBA Former team: - Weeks with club: Always Age: 26 Height: 185 cm Skill Index: 1 210 Wage per week: € 236 Goalkeeping: 2 Foot work: 6 Passing: 4 Creativity: 5 Acceleration: 2 Without Ball: 2 Penalty Scoring: 2 Routine: - Stamina: 83 Goals in the League: 5 Goals in the Cup: 0 Goals in career: 10 Jersey: 4 Wanted Jersey: Any On sale until: 09 Aug 2006 11:47 Start price: € 200 000 Current offer by: RK Ustaše Offer: € 200 001 Sale Position: Left Wing / Right Wing
200K for a player that is 26 years old, does not have any skill higher than 6? Hmmmmm... Strange!
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shiby
Junior Handball Manager
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Post by shiby on Aug 12, 2006 23:22:30 GMT 1
hmmm now you guys are becoming strange :/ As i can read here every transfer that is made by two teams from the same country or a region you see as cheating. At the belthazor first case i just can see where did you think the cheating can be. The prices are fair the players are not so bad the only thing that could bother you is that the teams come from the same league. And Anders it is just not fair the way how you run this game... you delete a team without any further notice and you don´t even make sure if the guy was really cheating. I know some former players from slovenia which teams have you deleted and they did not cheat at all. From a developer i would expect a little more. At least make sure that they are cheating.
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Post by gurbi77 on Aug 14, 2006 11:54:23 GMT 1
Team BM.Dinart from spanish league is cheating!!! Team Poliss bought this players from BM.Dinart:
Chris Kirk (855) for 125.001 Héctor Ayala (1045) for 100.001
I don't know if this teams are from the same or different part of Spain, but I think cheating is possible possible in both cases. Looking at how is the player's market, I think this is an obvious example of cheating...
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Post by esnix on Aug 14, 2006 13:27:50 GMT 1
hmmm now you guys are becoming strange :/ As i can read here every transfer that is made by two teams from the same country or a region you see as cheating. At the belthazor first case i just can see where did you think the cheating can be. The prices are fair the players are not so bad the only thing that could bother you is that the teams come from the same league. And Andreas it is just not fair the way how you run this game... you delete a team without any further notice and you don´t even make sure if the guy was really cheating. I know some former players from slovenia which teams have you deleted and they did not cheat at all. From a developer i would expect a little more. At least make sure that they are cheating. I agree ... but it's quite hard to be absolutely sure about who's cheating or not. Just asking the player in question won't help, because when a cheater is asked if he's cheating I'm betting they won't tell the truth But I share you're concern because I'm hoping no Belgian team will buy 2 players from me in a short period, for more than 100k. Something will have to be figured out but I have absolutely no idea how this should be organised.
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shiby
Junior Handball Manager
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Post by shiby on Aug 14, 2006 14:27:08 GMT 1
I think that it is anyway better that you ask a player for explanation. You can delete him anyway if you still think that he was cheating. I am asking just for a little patience. Some players for ex. just don´t know how to play and he makes a big bid for a very bad player... thing like that is called stupidity not cheating. And you deleted a manager that bought a player when the transfer market wasn´t even settled and it wasn´t in order so the managers couldn´t know how much a player costs! Until the market does not settles i think that you should have more patience and you don´t have to click that delete button so often.
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Post by crazygang on Aug 15, 2006 2:43:05 GMT 1
Take a look at the last player I sold...Demetrio Morales..
According to me way too high a price... Nearly 8 mil Danish kroner.. Thats over 1 mil euro and I was hoping for like 150.000 Euro tops.... Thats crazy and his skill index isnt even 4.000, and 72 bids were made in all.. I just cant understand the buyers in this case..
And on another note I was cheated today by Djthoms as he equalized with 18 seconds left :-P
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shiby
Junior Handball Manager
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Post by shiby on Aug 15, 2006 21:16:59 GMT 1
Well that is what i am talking about... it is good that you wrote this here... becouse you could lose youre team and also the other player that just doesn´t know what is he doing could end up without his team (That would not be a loss but lets stick to the point ). Nobody didn´t do nothing wrong. I also gave around 600000 euros for a player that has skill index about 3200 but he is still a kid and he could realy improve. What if Anders would chose around 4 ppl that would look on the TM from time to time and search for possible cheaters and demand an explanation if they found someone... if they would still think that he was cheating his team would be deleted. I can see that there are a lot of ppl that would take a job like that imedietly. I think a thing like that could be arranged.
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Post by gurbi77 on Aug 16, 2006 12:04:09 GMT 1
I agrre that you can lose your team without cheating if another team with no idea spend a lot of money in one of your worst players, and I know is difficult to control cheaters, so I think people should help if they see comething strange. I wrote recently to Anders about the case I expose before, and he answered me that he'll control that team (BM. Dinart),but he's not going to delete the team because is not a los of money. I think this is ridiculous! If someone cheats must be deleted!! Cheating shouldn't depend on the amount of money. In that case is esay how to win money...
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Post by ertz1989 on Aug 16, 2006 16:23:04 GMT 1
0844 --- 0903
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Post by tillo on Aug 18, 2006 14:41:32 GMT 1
ok, cheaters must be deleted, but don't delete to fast. I think everybody puts his players on the transferlist and hopes that some 1 will do a crazy bid. That's no reason to say they are cheating. Sometimes I also put a player on the list for 150k more than I think he's worth and I hope some1 will buy him. Most of the times it doesn't work, but sometimes some1 bids. But now Ihave read this, I won't do that anymore! Don't want to loose my team for 150k!! So please don't delete to fast! It can't be that you'll first have to look where a person lives, before you can bid on a player!
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Post by Anders Busch (admin) on Aug 19, 2006 8:08:59 GMT 1
hmmm now you guys are becoming strange :/ As i can read here every transfer that is made by two teams from the same country or a region you see as cheating. At the belthazor first case i just can see where did you think the cheating can be. The prices are fair the players are not so bad the only thing that could bother you is that the teams come from the same league. And Anders it is just not fair the way how you run this game... you delete a team without any further notice and you don´t even make sure if the guy was really cheating. I know some former players from slovenia which teams have you deleted and they did not cheat at all. From a developer i would expect a little more. At least make sure that they are cheating. I might have deleted people a bit to fast in the begining. Now I log a lot more information about the transfers so it's easier to see if it's cheats or not.
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